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The Dr. Phil Podcast

Coerced: Anatomy of a False Confession

The Dr. Phil Podcast

Dr. Phil McGraw

Mental Health, Self-improvement, Society & Culture, Education, Health & Fitness

4.413.2K Ratings

🗓️ 28 February 2023

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Many people don’t know that the police are permitted to outright lie about evidence to someone they bring into the station for questioning. They are even permitted to lie to minors. If you think only guilty people confess to crimes, think again. Innocent people are often convicted after they provide police with a false confession. What could possibly motivate an innocent person to confess to a crime they didn’t commit? Dr. Phil speaks with Attorney Laura Nirider, co-director of the Center on Wrongful Conviction and co-host of the Wrongful Conviction: False Confessions podcast; Dave Thompson, expert in interrogation training and certified forensic interviewer analyzes how minors can easily be coerced into a false confession, how to protect your child and their unexpected collaboration. "It's not every day that a defense attorney comes along and becomes a close colleague of somebody who is dedicated to training law enforcement. I like to think of our evolution here as a way to build bridges and come together around some really important issues-- wrongful convictions," Nirider says. Learn about Nirider and Thompson's approach to representing youth, solving cases and protecting public safety. New episodes drop Tuesdays. Please remember to rate, review, follow and subscribe to my podcasts: http:/drphilpodcast.com. Advertise with us: https://www.advertisecast.com/network/Stage29Productions Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

We've got the CSI Law and Order effect where everybody thinks the goal of every conversation

0:04.8

is to get the IDID.

0:06.2

They can take a 15-year-old in, absent a parent, and absent a lawyer.

0:11.0

They were convicted of murders, despite DNA proving their innocence.

0:15.9

Well, welcome to Fill In The Blanks.

0:24.4

We're talking about something I think you will find very interesting today.

0:28.2

Many people don't know that the police are permitted to outright lie about evidence to

0:34.0

someone they bring into the station for questioning.

0:38.0

They are even permitted to lie to minors, even kids.

0:42.0

Now try explaining that to parents.

0:44.8

My guests today have firsthand knowledge of this and are here to share their experience

0:49.4

and expertise.

0:51.3

Laura Nyrider is a clinical professor of law and co-director of the Center on wrongful

0:56.6

convictions at Northwestern Pritzker School of Law in Chicago.

1:01.2

Now, Laura represents individuals who were wrongfully convicted of crimes when they were children

1:07.2

or teenagers.

1:08.8

Her clients have included Brendan Dassy, whose case was profiled in the Netflix Global

1:15.0

Series Making Murder and Damien Eccles of the West Memphis 3, whose case was profiled

1:22.4

in the documentary West of Memphis.

1:25.2

Dave Thompson is the president of Wiclander Zooloski and Associate Sink.

1:30.7

He is also a leader in non-confrontational interview and interrogation training.

1:36.7

He doesn't want to demonize police in any way and like me is a supporter of law enforcement.

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