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Tudors Dynasty & Beyond

Codebreakers Crack Secrets of Mary Queen of Scots’ Lost Letters

Tudors Dynasty & Beyond

RedTop Media / Rebecca Larson

History

4.4869 Ratings

🗓️ 14 February 2023

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Despite Walsingham’s network of spies and back channels determined to expose Mary Stuart’s information network, Mary’s clandestine letters to Castelnau remained undiscovered for ten years. It was not until 1583 Walsingham managed to plant a mole in Castelnau’s embassy in London. These letters have been presumed lost for the past 436 years until now.

Tudors Dynasty is happy to present to you this episode on the most recent discovery on Mary, Queen of Scots. Historian and guest host Mell Taylor chats with Dr. George Lasry about the discover that he and his colleagues Norbert Bierman and Satoshi Tomokiyo

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Credits:

Host: Melanie "Mell" V. Taylor

Guest: Dr George Lasry

Edited by: Rebecca Larson 

Voice Over: David Black

Music: Ketsa, Alexander Nakarada, and Winnie the Moog

Feature Image Credit: 5 O’Clock Tea by David Comba Adamson (1859-1926), n.d. © Dundee Art Gallery and Museum

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Suggested Reading list: 

Bossy, John: Under the Molehill: an Elizabethan Spy Story; Yale University Press; 2001 

Cooper, John; The Queen’s Agent; Faber & Faber; 2012 

Fraser; Antonia; Mary Queen of Scots; W&N; 2018 

Guy, John; My Heart is my Own; The Life of Mary Queen of Scots; Fourth Estate; 2004. 

Hutchinson, R; Elizabeth’s Spymaster; W&N; 2006 

Porter, Linda; Crown of Thistles; Lume; 2023 

A really interesting website for those interested in cyphers http://cryptiana.web.fc2.com/code/crypto.htm The link to the Open Access article: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/01611194.2022.2160677

Transcript

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0:00.0

And then, as you rightly said, even the code that they used was not a very secure one.

0:05.9

So you are involved in a plot, you write about it in a code which is not very safe.

0:10.5

This shows that she was less careful at the time and more desperate probably.

0:14.6

The Tudor's Dynasty podcast.

0:36.6

If you follow the show on social media, you likely saw within the last week a big

0:42.8

announcement about some lost Mary Queen of Scott's letters.

0:47.5

While on today's show, historian and friend of the show, Mel Taylor, had the privilege

0:53.5

of talking to Dr. George Lassery,

0:55.6

who together with his colleagues Norbert Bierman, a professor of music and a pianist,

1:00.4

and Satoshi Tomakio, an astrophysicist, found in analyzed letters written by Mary Queen of Scots

1:08.4

in code between the years 1578 and 1584.

1:13.6

Now, despite Walsingham's network of spies and back channels determined to expose Mary Stewart's information network, Mary's clandestine letters to Castlelow remained undiscovered for 10 years.

1:27.9

It was not until 1583 that Walsingham managed to plant a mole in Casinoles Embassy in London.

1:35.3

These letters have been presumed lost for 436 years.

1:42.4

Until now.

1:44.2

And now I turn it over to Mel Taylor and Dr. George Lassery.

1:49.5

Welcome to Tudor's Dynasty.

1:51.2

I've spent some fantastic times delving into your paper over the last few days and also your PowerPoint presentation which I found very useful.

2:02.6

And how was it the three of you, you and Professor Berman and your lovely astrophysicist, Satoshi, is it Tomokio?

2:12.6

Yes, Tokyo. How did you stumble on these lost letters?

2:15.6

Yeah, so it's a project, I mean, the multiple project with the same purpose that we

2:22.9

are involved in in the last something like 10 years.

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