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Coal and Solar in the Navajo Nation

Outside/In

NHPR

Society & Culture, Documentary, Natural Sciences, Nature, Science

4.71.5K Ratings

🗓️ 17 December 2020

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

This week, we’re featuring an episode from A Matter of Degrees, a podcast about climate change hosted by Dr. Leah Stokes and Dr. Katherine Wilkinson. This episode was reported by Julian Brave NoiseCat. The energy transition isn’t going to be a one-size-fits-all process. In this episode, a broad lesson gleaned from a very specific story: the effort to move from coal to solar in the Navajo nation. Sign up for the Outside/In newsletter for our biweekly reading lists and episode extras. Support Outside/In by making a donation in our year end fund drive Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Leastokes is the kind of person who seems like she just has more hours in the day than us mere mortals.

0:05.2

She's an assistant professor studying climate politics at UC Santa Barbara,

0:09.0

and last year during the Democratic primary, she did the hard work of breaking down and laying out the various

0:14.7

candidates platforms. At the same time, she was finalizing a book called Short Circuiting Policy, teaching classes

0:21.0

and planting fruit trees.

0:23.0

I just can't even imagine how you have time for this.

0:26.0

I'm everywhere.

0:28.0

I'm annoying myself.

0:30.0

So over-exposed.

0:31.0

I feel like when you take the climate crisis really seriously, which I do, you just feel

0:36.3

this sense of urgency that every minute, every day, every month, every year counts, and so I just work very hard. And now Leah is one of the

0:46.5

co-hosts of a new show called A Matter of Degrees along with Catherine

0:50.4

Wilkinson of Project Drawdown,

0:52.8

an organization that quantifies the largest opportunities

0:56.0

for reducing greenhouse gas emissions globally.

0:58.8

In the episode of theirs that we're going to share with you

1:00.4

is a story that I had honestly considered pitching to my colleagues at

1:03.5

Outside Inn, so when I heard this one it was just too perfect. It was reported by

1:07.8

Julian Brave Noise Cat. He wanted to focus in on the Navajo Nation and this story that he had heard about which is the

1:15.2

transition from coal to solar playing out on the Navajo Nation and it ended up

1:21.3

being almost like a little microcosm for the story of energy

1:25.4

transitions more broadly across the entire country.

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