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From KQED Public Radio in San Francisco.

I'm Michael Krasny.

In his new book, The Madman Theory, CNN anchor and chief national security correspondent Jim Shuto writes that Trump's erratic and

volatile approach to foreign policy has unnerved advisors, enemies, and allies. We'll talk to Shuto

about what Trump's lasting legacy on America's place in the world will be, and we'll get his take

on developing international news stories, including escalating U.S.-China tensions over

Hong Kong and the coronavirus, and Russia's bounties program to which it paid Taliban-linked

militants to kill American service members in Afghanistan. Join us after this news. Welcome to Forum. I'm Michael Krasny. In his new book, The Madman Theory, CNN anchor and chief national security correspondent Jim Shuto, highlights how President Trump's unpredictable behavior,

including threats to meet North Korea with fire and fury and to pull the U.S. out of NATO and NAFTA

have unnerved enemies and allies alike. Shudu shows how Trump's volatility has led advisors to hesitate

in giving the president military options because they feared he could start a war.

We'll talk with Jim Shuto about the lasting imprint Trump has left on the world after four years in office,

and we'll get his take on how that will shape America's place in the world.

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