CNLP 804 | How to De-escalate an Angry Church and Leading a Ministry You Didn't Start with Rich Villodas
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast
Carey Nieuwhof
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🗓️ 14 May 2026
⏱️ 65 minutes
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Carey caught up with Rich Villodas backstage at Exponential to talk about the learnable skills that keep leaders and congregations non-anxious in an angry age, and the unique challenges and gifting needed to lead a church you didn't plant.
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| 0:00.0 | The Art of Leadership Network. |
| 0:03.1 | I was in CVS, Carrie. |
| 0:04.4 | I was maybe Al Five. |
| 0:05.9 | And I get a call. |
| 0:07.4 | It's Pete. |
| 0:09.3 | And he starts just emotionally just going at it. |
| 0:13.3 | He's processing. |
| 0:14.1 | But in a way that he crossed the line emotionally. |
| 0:20.6 | Welcome to the Kerry Newhoff Leadership Podcast. |
| 0:22.7 | I'm so glad you joined us today to all of you who are tuning in for the first time. |
| 0:26.4 | Welcome, whether you're watching, whether you're listening. |
| 0:29.1 | We're really, really honored you're here. |
| 0:30.6 | What I want to do is I want to bring you the best conversations I can possibly have. |
| 0:34.7 | With the leaders that you admire, some of whom you've heard of some of whom you |
| 0:38.2 | haven't today you probably heard of my guest it's rich volatus we recorded this backstage at |
| 0:43.8 | exponential in person i wanted to bring it to you on this podcast because we talk about how to |
| 0:49.3 | de-escalate an angry church you got an angry church how do you de-escalate it? People have political views. |
| 0:54.9 | They get upset. All of those things. Well, we're going to talk about that with Rich. And we're also |
| 0:59.4 | going to talk about how to lead a church you didn't start. So many of you are now leading ministries |
| 1:05.3 | taking over for a legacy pastor. What is the skill set you need when you're not the founder? |
| 1:13.1 | Well, Rich knows that because he took over for Pete Scazaro 14 years ago, and he's been leading New Life Church since then. He is the Brooklyn |
| 1:19.5 | based lead pastor of New Life Fellowship, a large multiracial church with more than 80 countries |
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