CNLP 760 | Your Brain is Lying to You 80% of the Time: Judah Smith and Les Parrot on Why Leaders Self-Sabotage and How to Break the Cycle
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Carey Nieuwhof
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🗓️ 14 October 2025
⏱️ 78 minutes
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Summary
Judah Smith and Dr. Les Parrot, Judah's therapist of 15 years, talk about the unique pressures pastors face. Les and Judah explain why your brain is lying to you 80% of the time, offer insights into how pastors self-sabotage, and provide guidance on how to break the cycle of negative thoughts that many church leaders struggle with.
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| 0:00.0 | The Art of Leadership Network. |
| 0:03.1 | A ticking time bomb. |
| 0:04.8 | I started to feel like it's only a matter of time. |
| 0:08.0 | If this pressure increases at all, I cannot withstand this. |
| 0:12.5 | I used to think it was perversion. |
| 0:14.9 | I used to think it was greed. |
| 0:16.8 | I used to think it was rebellion. |
| 0:18.6 | I used to think it was witchcraft. |
| 0:20.1 | You know, all these reasons that people end up sabotaging their life. |
| 0:23.7 | Now I just realize it's just weariness, exhaustion, fear, anxiety, |
| 0:30.8 | this feeling that I can't keep all these balls in the air at the same time. |
| 0:34.6 | I'm going to screw this up. |
| 0:36.5 | It's only a matter of time. And I didn't know what to do |
| 0:40.0 | with some of those emotions. Welcome to the Kerry Newhoff Leadership podcast. It's |
| 0:48.2 | Carrie here. I hope our time together helps you thrive in leadership. We're going to talk about |
| 0:53.4 | your brain and your thoughts and why |
| 0:55.9 | they're lying to you like 80% of the time. Judith and Dr. Les Parrott join me on why leaders |
| 1:02.2 | self-sabotage, how to break the cycle, and a whole lot more. This is a really good, got a new book |
| 1:06.9 | that they wrote together, but the book is really an outcropping of their journey together as |
| 1:12.4 | counselor-counselaee over the last 15 years. And Les Parrott has been Judea's personal |
| 1:19.0 | therapist for a decade and a half. And they decided to take some of that journey and turn it into a |
| 1:24.3 | book, a very good book, by the way. So why is your brain lying to you 80% of the time? |
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