As I'm reading through chapter 10 of Craig's book, I start to journal, well, how many external stressors have I had in the last, in that case, the timeline was 14 months. It was 29, and it blew me away. Everything from my father-in-law dying to navigating his funeral, which is never easy,

to my parents both having significant health challenges, my dad being diagnosed.

Welcome to the Keri Nuhoff Leadership Podcast.

Carrie here in a very different kind of episode.

Today, we are going to get personal. And I'm going to

talk about probably my most difficult year in leadership in the last 20 years. And 20 years ago,

I had an episode of burnout. That's not what happened this time around. It was something that I've come to

call external stressors or external stress

points. Twenty-nine different things that happened in about 14 months, kind of stretched to 16,

and didn't quite take me out, but really knocked me down, including a personal health wake-up call

crisis that I'll explain. Now, why am I sharing all this with you? I'm sharing

it with you because I'm learning something new about leadership. I am learning that, well, there are

things you can control and things you can't. And when the things you cannot control really

rack up, it interrupts what you're able to produce in terms of your leadership.

So today's very, very different. If you're brand new, welcome. We're really glad to have you.

You've got in on a very personal episode. If you're a long time listener, hey, you're along for

the journey. Some of you have been here since day one. A lot of you we picked up over the years.

And I just want to say, thanks for your partnership, thanks for your care, thanks for your prayers. And thank you for making this show what it is. And so what I want to do is I want to be transparent. And this is a very transparent episode. So a little bit of a longer introduction to give you some context. But today I'm going to flip the mic with my good friend, Sean Morgan.

So if you don't know Sean, you need to follow him.

He is a former military pilot, former executive pastor, probably the best at succession in the church these days hands down,

meets with a whole lot of next-gen leaders who are taking over churches and is the host of the Leaders in Living Rooms podcast where this was originally supposed to be on that show. And he goes, you know what? You should use this on your show. So thank you for that, Sean. Give him a follow. You'll really enjoy him. We'll link to everything there in the show notes. So what is the heartbeat behind this

episode? Well, 20 years ago when I burned out, almost 20 years ago, it was all internal stuff,

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