I am an unbelievably obsessive, compulsive person.

Like, I'm anal retentive, it's a superpower and a villain origin story all wrapped up into one.

When it comes to excellence, I know exactly what Wright looks like,

and I want everyone to do it exactly that way all the time.

And yet at the same time, I love creating cultures of ownership and empowerment,

and I know that people bring their best selves to the job when they feel they have the ability to creatively impact the work

itself. And those two things do not go together well at all.

Welcome to the Kerry Newhoff Leadership Podcast. Hey, I hope our time together today helps you thrive in life and leadership.

It's Carrie here. I'm sitting down with one of my favorite humans. Will Goddara. He's been on the podcast before. He's back.

And we are going to talk about all things, well, leadership, hospitality. Will, if you don't know who he is, is the bestselling author of his

book that is iconically in the New York Times top 10 over and over again for two years now.

Unreasonable Hospitality, former owner of the number one restaurant in the world. And, well,

we go behind the story and bring you even more. Plus, talk about

his foray into TV. Any bear fans out there? Yep, we're going to cover that and a lot more.

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So Will and I talk about the backstory behind unreasonableity, what he was attempting to write,

why it's taken off the way it has, the TV show The Bear, Navigating Control and Collaboration,

and How to Better Handle Criticism and Praise. We go deep on this one. And Will is the author

of the national bestseller Unreasonable Hospitality, which chronicles the lessons

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