Welcome to the Carrie Newhoff Leadership Podcast, a podcast all about leadership, change,

and personal growth, the goal to help you lead like never before in your church or in your

business.

And now your host, Carrie Newhoff.

Well, hey everybody, and welcome to episode 457 of the podcast.

It's Carrie here.

I hope our time together today helps you thrive in life and leadership.

Well, we're going to be talking about all things, anyogram with Beth and Jeff McCord, and

also I've got a what I'm thinking about segment because I got something on my heart at the

end.

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Well, it's good to have Beth and Jeff McCord.

I know a number of you listen to their podcast have read their books and we're going to talk

about how to handle the tricky side that is the people side of team leadership using the

anyogram to diffuse tension and how to get the best from your leaders.

Beth and Jeff McCord are the founders of your anyogram coach.

Beth is a bestselling author, speaker and coach.

She's passionate about coming alongside individuals and helping them understand and interpret

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