Welcome to the Carrie Newhoff Leadership Podcast. A podcast all about leadership

change and personal growth. The goal? To help you lead like never before in your church or in your business and now your host

Carrie Newhoff.

Well hey everybody and welcome to episode 349 of the podcast my name is

Carrie Newhoff and I hope her time together today helps you lead like never

before well every once in a while you meet well actually no that's not true

every once in a while you do not meet a person like Bob Gough.

We've had the chance to get together in numerous different settings.

And I've had a chance to interview multiple times on this podcast before as well and it's just it's I don't even know the metaphor it's like this is the most fascinating,

it's like you try to ground Bob with a question,

and the next thing you know, he just, you know, blasts into orbit.

It's absolutely fascinating. There is nobody I've ever met like Bob and he's back on the podcast today

He is a New York Times best-selling author he is a quote recovering a lawyer. He's written a couple of books that have sold millions of copies love does and everybody always he's the honorary consul to the Republic of Uganda. No, we're not making that up and he's the founder of Love does. It's a nonprofit human rights

organization operating in Uganda, India, Nepal, Iraq, and Somalia. And there's nobody like him so we go all over the place.

It's actually a very challenging interview if you're an interviewer

you're gonna have fun listening to this because Bob's just everywhere and that's what makes him so amazing.

Tony and I love him.

My wife Tony and I just love Bob and Sweet Maria and yeah, you're going to too.

I know most of you probably know exactly who Bob is,

but if you don't, you're gonna hear some stories

you've never heard before, some paradigms you never heard before,

and I try to pin him down on how he practiced law,

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