Welcome to the Carrie Newhoff Leadership Podcast. A podcast all about leadership

change and personal growth. The goal? To help you lead like never before in your church or in your business and now your

host Carrie Newhoff.

Well hey everybody and welcome to episode 317 of the podcast. My name'm Carrie Newhoff and I hope our time together today helps you lead like never before.

Today's episode is brought to you by Ministry Grid and Pro Media Fire, plus I want to talk to you by Ministry Grid and Pro Media Fire.

Plus I want to talk to you about something really exciting

that's happening over at the High Impact Workplace.com.

It is back open today after being closed for a little while and we'll talk to you about that at the

end of the show but I'm so glad to have Jefferson Bethky on the podcast we have a

really interesting conversation he's got a new book all about

hustle and overwhelm and how to get out of the race that a lot of us seem to be in.

And I mean the dude's he's got like serious street credit he lives in Maui and if you follow him on Instagram

New York Times best-selling author he he seems to do okay at that

However, I think the most interesting part of the conversation to me happened when Jefferson and I kind of figured out a part way through the interview that he being, you know, 22 sort of catapulted into fame on YouTube is really the first

generation like he's of the age of the first generation where the only job he

really has is to be him and to write books and podcast and

YouTube and all those things and we talk about that like most people who ended up

becoming well known for something did so out of another job.

And yeah, it's kind of interesting. It's a bit of a meta conversation about what's happening,

what's changing in our culture. So that's a really fun part. Plus, well, we just talk about a lot of stuff. So I think you're going to love today's show and hey I did some free courses for ministry grid that are available in the month of January with a really cool bonus.

So if you head over to ministrygrid.com forward slash carry you will not only get some courses

I did exclusively for them over at Ministry Grid and get to access those for free.

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