Welcome to the Carrie Newhoff Leadership Podcast. A podcast all about leadership

change and personal growth. The goal? To help you lead like never before in your church or in your business and now your

host Carrie Newhoff.

Well hey everybody and welcome to episode 311 of the podcast.

My name is Carrie Newhoff and I hope our time together today helps you lead like never before.

Well today's podcast is brought to you by Financial Peace University if you want to get out of debt in 2020,

stay tuned and also by Belay,

your Premier Virtual Solutions Company,

a partner of mine as well.

And we got an ask carry today talking about at the end of the

podcast how do you get through like the dark months if you live where I live? You don't

get a lot of sunshine at this time of year. What does that do to your mood as a leader are

there any tips we'll talk about that and my guest today is John S Dickerson he is an

award-winning journalist somebody who I have gotten a know over the last few years and these days he leads a very large church in the Midwest and I think you're going to love today's conversation and guys by the way

Merry Christmas it is December 24th when this episode releases and we're

releasing it because it's a Tuesday and we never miss a Tuesday and a lot of you

will listen live but many more will listen after so wherever this finds you I of you will listen live, but many more will listen after.

So wherever this finds you, I hope you will have or have had a great Christmas vacation.

I hope you actually take some time off.

I know for those of you who are in church leadership that can be

hard for those of you who run your own businesses, entrepreneurs. You never get a day

off but I hope you get some time off. That has been a journey for me over the

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