Welcome to the Carrie Newhoff Leadership Podcast. A podcast all about leadership

change and personal growth. The goal? To help you lead like never before in your church or in your business and now

your host Carrie Newhoff.

Well hey everybody and welcome to episode 286 of the podcast.

My name is Carrie Newhoff, and I hope our time together today will help you lead like never

before.

This was a fun interview.

I've long admired John Towns and I remember even like two decades ago. I think I've long admired John Tones and I remember even like two decades ago. I think I'd talk

about this in the interview like when dial-up was still a thing and I was in

leadership clicking on videos that he and Henry Cloud did just to try to figure out how to improve my emotional intelligence.

Anyway, many, many books later, he's authored 35 books.

He's a business consultant, leadership coach, and one of the leading psychologists today and he's got some New York Times bestsellers to his name and I'll tell you one of the smartest people you're going to run into.

He has written a lot with Henry Cloud.

I did interview Henry Cloud earlier on in the podcast.

So if you scroll back, you will find that at episode 160.

And John and I talk about something I didn't even know was possible, how to rewire your brain out of

negative self-talk. Yeah, you can actually do that like he says it changes

the physiology, the neurons in your brain

crazy stuff he's doing a lot of brain research we also talk about the seven

kinds of people you need in your life and why most of us have the wrong people in

our life and not enough of the right people in our life

plus I think this is a mission I get him to tell me no that is such an issue for so

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