Welcome to the Carrie Newhoff Leadership Podcast. A podcast all about leadership, change and personal growth.

The goal, to help you lead like never before in your church or in your business and now

your host Carrie Newhoff. Well hey everybody and welcome to episode 253 of the podcast.

My name is Carrie Newhoff,

and I hope our time together today

helps you lead like never before.

Well, I'm really excited to bring you today's episode.

Katie Cole is a fantastic leader and she's got a brand new book

and we're gonna drill into the subject of the new rules for men and women in

the workplace and creating a culture that leverages female

leaders regardless of your theology. So this has been an issue in the church.

Also in business, do women really have the same opportunities as man, etc, etc.

And Katie, honestly, one of the most refreshing voices I've ever heard on this subject.

You're going to love this interview.

She's brilliant.

She's led at very, very high levels and she is amazingly open-minded.

So I think you're going to really enjoy today's episode.

Also want to say thank you for all of the support and all of the encouragement coming out of

South by Southwest. I'll give you an update on that in a few minutes, but I gotta tell you it was an

incredible experience. I can't remember a time where I got more direct messages, texts,

and encouragement, comments, etc, etc. is as I did in my time at South by Southwest

a couple of weeks ago, so I'm going to give you an update on that but I want to talk to you about opportunities you may have missed you ever missed like an amazing opportunity so a buddy tells you about a special he got but it's already over. Yeah, being there. Well, there is a special

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