Welcome to the Carrie Newhoff Leadership Podcast. A podcast all about leadership, change and personal growth.

The goal, to help you lead like never before in your church or in your business and now your host

Carrie Newhoff.

Well hey everybody and welcome to episode 220 of the podcast.

My name is Carrie New Huff and I hope our time together today helps you lead like never before.

Well, I'm excited about today's episode and I'll tell you why one of the issues that I found difficult to crack as a church leader

or I think just honestly as a leader period is the whole issue of how to talk about money

because usually when you're a preacher you stand up and

people just assume you want their money well it took me a while to figure out

but I figured out if you can help people win with their money things go a lot better

it goes a lot better for them. Your

church gets healthier. And my guest today is Rachel Cruz. A lot of you know

her. She works with Dave Ramsey. She's one of their personalities. She's

co-authored the number one New York Times best-selling book,

Smart Money Smart Kids, and her new book, Love Your Life Not Theirs,

just released a couple of years ago. She speaks to audiences around the world.

She's been featured on Good Morning America, The Today Show, Fox and Friends, many other places.

And she's a ball of energy and a lot of fun too. I think it's two minutes in the interview. I'm like, hey, are you an extrovert?

She is just, she's a dynamo. And I love following Rachel. She's helping a lot of people win with their money.

And we talk about

tips for parents here so all of you who are parents listen up and then we talk

about some of the other characteristics like for example their long-held

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