Welcome to the Carrie Newhoff Leadership Podcast. A podcast all about leadership, change and personal growth.

The goal, to help you lead like never before in your church or in your business and now

your host Carrie Newhoff.

Well hey everybody and welcome to episode 210 of the podcast.

My name is Carrie Newhoff, and I hope our time together today

helps you lead like never before.

Well, we are actually releasing a few extra episodes

of the podcast over the next month to mark the launch of my

brand new book, didn't see it coming.

It's all about overcoming the seven greatest challenges that no one expects and everyone experiences.

And here's what we're trying to do.

You know, anytime we do something big around here,

we want you to be the beneficiary.

So yes, it's a book launch,

and I'm very excited about the book.

But we wanted to bring you some bonus content

because I think there's a lot of things in leadership that we didn't see coming.

A lot of us find ourselves in a very surprised place so over the next few weeks we're going to bring you some really I hope

what you will consider fun episodes just great content almost like off-the-record

conversations with well-known leaders who are like,

okay, you want to know what's really going on?

This is what's really going on. So for example in today's episode, Tony Morgan rang

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