Welcome to the Carrie Newhoff Leadership Podcast. A podcast all about leadership, change and personal growth.

The goal, to help you lead like never before.

In your church or in your business.

And now your host, Carrie Newhoff.

Well, hey everybody, and welcome to episode 115 of the podcast. My name is Carrie Newhoff and I hope

our time together today helps you lead like never before. Man it's been a good

run on the podcast lately hasn't it? I've had a lot of fun anyway with our

guests and I think today is no exception

you are going to talk to well a leader that probably a lot of you already know

William Vanderblumen he is a repeat guest on the podcast we had him on a long, long time ago back.

What was that? That was episode number 19.

That's right. We were like just past single digits.

It was great.

And it's good to have him back.

And we talked about succession then, but I wanted to have William back to ask him, like,

why do leaders quit and why do some hang on too long and why do some stay too short? So I think those are great questions to ask and

obviously that's been an issue in my life as I've kind of thought about you know when it's time to stay when it's time to leave and

Back in episode 110 myself Jeff Brody and Jeff Henderson discussed why I made a transition into a new role last year and

Really enjoy I'm tremendously enjoying that transition so anyway a little bit of that how do you know when it's time to quit I

know a lot of you probably think about that regularly and Williams got a lot of

insight because he leads the Vander Blumen search group and he has an insight

into literally what hundreds of churches are doing in terms of helping

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