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Closer Than They Appear

Closer Than They Appear LIVE at the Seattle Art Museum, with Sondra Perry

Closer Than They Appear

Al Jazeera

News, Society & Culture, Personal Journals

4.8626 Ratings

🗓️ 14 May 2018

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

Carvell went to Seattle to record a live episode of the show with visual artist Sondra Perry. They looked at images from her exhibit, “Eclogue for [in]HABITABILITY,” and talked about race, displacement, survival, and overcoming the limits of our imagination. Thank you to the Seattle Art Museum for inviting us!

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0:00.0

This week on True Crime Reports.

0:04.0

George Stinney was the youngest American in the 20th century to be electrocated to death.

0:09.3

He was accused of murdering two white girls without any evidence.

0:12.9

What does his story tell us about the US justice system and the ways it continues to systematically fail African Americans.

0:23.4

Find out on the next true crime reports.

0:28.3

Subscribe and listen wherever you get your podcasts.

0:35.3

Hey everyone, it's Carvel. And last week, I traveled to Seattle to do a live recording with the incredible visual artist Sandra Perry at the Seattle Art Museum. We talked about race and the future and displacement and overcoming the limits of our own imaginations.

0:56.3

And as you can imagine, it was an incredible discussion.

1:00.2

And I'm really excited for you guys to hear it.

1:02.1

So here it is.

1:07.3

Please join me in welcoming Carvel Wallace to the stage. Good evening and thank you for being here.

1:23.6

And thanks Philip and Seattle Art Museum for having us here for this. I'm excited

1:31.2

and I'm going to read an essay, but I'm going to tell you a little bit about where that essay came

1:36.6

from before I bring Sandra Perry to the stage. In 2016, actually late 2015, I was commissioned by the now defunct general interest website,

1:49.0

The Toast, to write about the Negro Motors screen book, which is a publication that ran in the United States from about 1934, I think, to about 1964. And for those who don't know, the Negro Motorist Screen Book, which is a publication that ran in the United States from about 1934, I think, to about 1964. And for those who don't know,

2:04.6

the Negro Motors Green Book was, in a sense, a prototypical Yelp. It was a crowdsourced collection

2:11.9

of services, stores, gas stations, hotels, barbershops, restaurants, et cetera,

2:20.0

where black travelers could safely stay when they were making their journeys to visit family

2:24.6

and do other things across the United States.

2:27.2

And it was the brainchild of a postman who lived in New Jersey,

2:32.6

and he essentially gathered all of this information from

2:36.5

different people who were travelers. And each year this book came out and was updated with

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