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Data Over Dogma

Close Encounters of the Catholic Kind

Data Over Dogma

Data Over Dogma Media, LLC

Society & Culture, History

4.81.1K Ratings

🗓️ 10 November 2025

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

Catholics don't read the Bible! Or at least, according to studies most don't read it in their homes. But according to our guest, Michael Peppard, that doesn't mean that they don't have a deep and meaningful relationship with it. This week, we're talking with Dr Peppard about his book How Catholics Encounter the Bible". It's a fascinating look at the world of Catholicism: the culture, the theology, and specifically the ways in which Catholic people learn and understand the teachings of the Bible. In a world where Christian sects often put high emphasis on dissecting each passage of the Bible, it's refreshing to talk about coming to the book with a bit more ease. A lighter touch. ---- For early access to an ad-free version of every episode of Data Over Dogma, exclusive content, and the opportunity to support our work, please consider becoming a monthly patron at: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/DataOverDogma⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠      Follow us on the various social media places: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/DataOverDogmaPod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.twitter.com/data_over_dogma⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Have you ordered Dan McClellan's New York Times bestselling book ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Bible Says So⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ yet??? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

For those of us who don't know, talk a bit about what that means.

0:03.9

Oh, yeah, sure.

0:05.1

Explain yourself.

0:05.8

You have a very educated audience.

0:07.5

I can't just say quasi-Marcionite and walk away.

0:15.4

Hey, everybody.

0:16.4

I'm Dan McClellan.

0:17.6

And I'm Dan Beecher.

0:19.0

And you're listening to the Data Over Dogma podcast, where we

0:22.8

increase public access to the academic study of the Bible and religion, and we combat the spread

0:27.8

of misinformation about the same. How are things today, Dan? It's a good day. It's a good day because

0:34.0

we get to interview somebody, and that's always fun having a different voice on the show.

0:38.9

It's always a nice time. So why don't you introduce our lovely guest?

0:43.8

Happy to. Today we have the pleasure and the privilege of talking with Dr. Michael Pepperd, who is professor of theology at Fordham University, as well as associate director of the

0:55.1

Curran Center for American Catholic Studies. Michael, thank you so much for being here.

1:01.4

Welcome to the show.

1:03.1

Thanks so much for having me. I'm excited to talk about some data and actually a little bit of

1:09.0

dogma maybe, too.

1:10.7

We'll get all of it.

1:11.7

We'll just squeeze it all in.

1:13.1

We'll figure out how.

1:14.3

And there are actually two books that I hope we get to talk about a bit during the show today.

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