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Climate of Poor Rhetoric

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🗓️ 4 May 2017

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Summary

The New Republic's Brian Beutler on the real problem with New York Times columnist Bret Stephens' take on climate change.

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0:00.0

Last Friday was the debut of New York Times op-ed writer Brett Stevens, who'd been hired away from the Wall Street Journal to offer a conservative perspective in the overwhelmingly liberal Times opinion columns.

0:16.6

This was part of the post-election hand-wringing throughout the media that we institutionally were

0:22.3

as trapped in our filter bubbles as Trump loyalists were in theirs.

0:28.9

The idea, as editorial page editor James Bennett phrased it, was to, quote, broaden the range of

0:36.0

Times debate about consequential questions.

0:39.5

Liberal readers of the Times had expressed concern at Stevens hiring,

0:44.1

and Stevens, in his debut column, obliged their worst fears.

0:48.9

His article titled, Climate of Complete Certainty,

0:52.8

lambasted liberals who rage at deniers, but themselves deny skeptics

0:57.9

the right to their skepticism. To quote his piece, claiming total certainty about the science

1:03.9

introduces the spirit of science and creates openings for doubt whenever a climate claim

1:09.6

proves wrong. Demanding abrupt and expensive

1:13.1

changes in public policy raises fair questions about ideological intentions. Brian Boydler is a senior

1:20.3

editor at the New Republic and host of the political podcast primary concerns. While many

1:26.3

readers were upset about the Times seeming revisionism or false

1:30.4

balance on climate change, Boydler was more upset about the Times publishing a flimsy argument.

1:37.5

Brian, welcome back to OTM. Thank you so much for having me. First of all, describe the column

1:43.3

what you believe he was trying to pull off.

1:46.5

I think Stevens' aim in that column was to present the debate over climate change as one dominated

1:54.1

by environmental activists who don't grapple with the possibility that the consequences of climate change will be less

2:02.4

severe than they think. And so their prescriptions for how to deal with climate change today

2:07.2

might end up being too costly and too disruptive to be worth it. Essentially, Stevens is

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