Climate Migration

Outside/In

NHPR

Society & Culture, Documentary, Natural Sciences, Nature, Science

4.7 • 1.5K Ratings

🗓️ 3 December 2020

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

In the coming decades, the scale of climate migration could be dizzying. In one projection, four million people in the United States could find themselves “living at the fringe,” outside ideal conditions for human life. In collaboration with By Degrees, NHPR’s climate change reporting initiative, we’re devoting the entire episode to answering one question: if you’re worried about climate, where should you live? And how should places prepare for the wave of climate migrants just around the corner? Featuring Bess Samuel, Jesse Jaime, Aurelia Jaime Ramirez, Kate McCarthy, Elena Mihaly, Jola Ajibade, Nadege Green, Suzi Patterson, Alex Whittemore, and Mike Hass. Sign up for the Outside/In newsletter for our biweekly reading lists and episode extras. Support Outside/In by making a donation in our year end fund drive Links “Locals Bristle As Out-of-Towners Fleeing Virus Hunker Down In New Hampshire Homes” by Annie Ropeik for New Hampshire Public Radio Nadege Green’s reporting on climate gentrification in season 3 of There Goes the Neighborhood, a collaboration between WNYC and WLRN. “Why climate migration is not managed retreat: Six justifications” (2020), coauthored by Idowu (Jola) Ajibade and published in Global Environmental Change. ProPublica’s Climate Migration project The EPA’s Climate Resiliency Screening Index (2017). Scroll to page 79 for their list of the top 150 most resilient counties in the United States. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	This is outside in. I'm Sam Evans Brown. Meet Bess Samuel. One of her first jobs was a counselor at
0:07.1	space camp in Huntsville, Alabama.
0:09.1	Yeah, it was fun. It was, it's pretty cool to put a simulated astronaut training on your resume.
0:16.3	As best told our own Justine Paradise that is in fact where she met her husband.
0:21.7	So we're true nerds.
0:23.6	We met at Space Camp.
0:24.7	We got engaged at a Doctor Who convention.
0:27.4	Yes.
0:28.4	And now they have two kids.
0:30.7	The older just started preschool this year. but these days they're thinking about moving out of Alabama.
0:37.0	She told us that it's hard because there's a lot of things about the South she really loves,
0:42.0	but especially now that her son is in school,
0:44.6	she's worried about the political and cultural climate in the state.
0:48.0	It's more conservative and more religious than she'd like.
0:51.1	But there's another reason, too, and this is the reason Bess initially reached out to us.
0:55.4	She actually dialed into the Ask Sam hotline and left us a voicemail.
1:00.7	Hi, this is Bess in Huntsville, Alabama. My family and I are looking to move a number of
1:08.9	reasons, but one of them is because of climate change.
1:14.0	Where is the safest place to move
1:18.4	based on the data that we have right now?
1:23.6	This is way more personal of a question than we're used to getting for Ask Sam, which is why
1:28.1	Justin called Best Back to follow up.
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