Climate Migration and National Security
The Lawfare Podcast
The Lawfare Institute
4.7 • 6.4K Ratings
🗓️ 14 September 2023
⏱️ 38 minutes
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Summary
It’s been another brutal summer with seemingly constant natural disasters precipitated by climate change. The United States and other countries have rightfully begun thinking of climate change as a security issue. But extreme weather is not the only challenge we must contend with. There’s also the problem of climate change’s victims, many of whom are forced to leave their homes.
Lawfare Executive Editor Natalie Orpett sat down with Erin Sikorsky, Director of the Center for Climate & Security at the Council on Strategic Risks, to talk about this phenomenon, which is often referred to as climate migration. They discussed the scope of the climate migration crisis, its security implications, and how we can try to mitigate the harm.
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| 0:57.5 | You know, I've heard complaints from folks in the global south that when they engage with |
| 1:08.1 | the global north on climate issues, you know, they're talked to about the transition to |
| 1:14.0 | clean energy, you know, the investments that the global north wants to make are in that |
| 1:19.7 | arena and these countries are saying that's not really what we need. Our energy footprint |
| 1:24.0 | is small compared to yours. What we really need is investment in adaptation and I think |
| 1:28.7 | you're seeing more and more demands from the global south for that. I mean, ultimately, |
| 1:33.1 | we have to be able to walk and chew gum at the same time, right? We have to be able to |
| 1:36.2 | do both. But I personally think that that adaptation has gotten a bit of the short end |
| 1:42.5 | of the stick thus far and needs to get more attention and they're not necessarily mutually |
| 1:46.3 | exclusive, right? Things you can do to cut emissions can also help communities potentially |
| 1:51.7 | adapt to and be able to manage managed climate risks. They're not necessarily totally separate. |
| 1:59.4 | I'm Natalie Orpet, executive editor of LawFare and this is the LawFare podcast, September 14th, |
| 2:06.4 | 2023. It's been another brutal summer with seemingly constant natural disasters precipitated |
| 2:12.9 | by climate change. The United States and other countries have rightfully begun thinking |
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