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I am joined today with the delightful Cliff Maloney, who is the CEO of Citizens

Alliance and the PA Chase.

And of course, you, Cliff, are on my show for the first time, but you were actually on

earlier with John Oterman to talk about how you thought, and maybe this is

some prognostication on your part that came true, how Republicans could in fact win Pennsylvania.

So welcome to the show.

And maybe why don't we start with the kind of rehashing that experience for a couple of minutes?

Because I'm curious to hear out what went and congratulate you on your success there.

Well, I appreciate it, Brian. It was

funny. We had a lot of naysayers, you know, some on the right, some in the libertarian world,

a lot on the left, who kind of told me, you know, you're wasting your time. Republicans

are never going to vote by mail. But just to back everybody up and just give kind of a basic

outline of what happened.

I mean, you know, I've always done liberty battles, typically at the state level.

I love to knock doors.

And I think that, you know, any libertarian or hardcore fiscal conservative, that's what they should focus on.

You know, that's where you can make the difference is picking local races where you can actually convince people

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