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Focus on the Family with Jim Daly

Clearing Out Your Space and Schedule (Part 2 of 2)

Focus on the Family with Jim Daly

Focus on the Family

Kids & Family, Society & Culture, Parenting, Relationships

4.74.5K Ratings

🗓️ 8 January 2026

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

It began with panic attack about having “too much” stuff in her home and schedule — prompting Courtney toward a spiritual journey of saying “no” to shopping, screens, and busyness. As a result, she and her family have more capacity to hear from the Lord and spend time with others.

 

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0:00.0

Your church comes to you each week to fill their cup. But when the crowd leaves, who's filling yours?

0:07.3

That's exactly what I'm here to do with my new podcast from Focus on the Family. It's called

0:12.1

Pastor to Pastor with Dave Stone. I'm so excited to help you navigate the unique challenges

0:17.7

that pastors face in their ministry journey, both personally and professionally.

0:22.8

So I invite you to listen and subscribe to pastor to pastor wherever you get your podcasts.

0:31.4

Stuff can have effects on your spirit, effects on your emotional health, and living in this

0:36.6

cluttered place really

0:38.5

started to get to me. And the stuff was part of it. My overstuffed schedule was part of it.

0:43.9

But I began to feel like I almost couldn't breathe because my life had too much in it.

0:48.8

That's Courtney Ellis, describing the circumstances that led her away from anxiety to a spiritual journey,

0:55.4

where she and her family discovered a new, deeper relationship with God.

1:00.0

Today on Focus on the Family with Jim Daly, Courtney is back with us to share more of her

1:04.6

rather remarkable story.

1:06.3

We're so glad you've joined us.

1:07.7

I'm John Fuller.

1:08.6

John, I so appreciated Courtney's vulnerability last time.

1:11.8

Just talking about things that she and her husband, Daryl, have changed to actually make more space for God.

1:18.2

And that's a good thing.

1:19.7

And everybody resonates with the idea of unclutter, right?

1:24.5

The title of the book.

1:26.0

How do I make more space in my life by getting rid of stuff

1:29.2

I'd never use or rarely use to my schedule, to even technology we talked about last time, and

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