Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show Podcast.

Welcome back in, our number three Tuesday edition of the program. I'm Clay Travis. He is Buck

Sexton. We are the Clay and Buck show. You can follow us on Twitter at Clay and Buck.

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and we hope that you were going to be able to find us there. We're about to be joined by the

Senator, one of the senators from Kentucky, Rand Paul, who has been going head to head with Dr. Anthony

Fauci for several months now over a variety of different issues at play as it pertains to the

original original where COVID came from effectively. I believe we have Senator Rand Paul with us now.

Senator, thanks for making the time. Question right off the top for you. Do you believe yourself

that Dr. Fauci has lied to the American public in his testimony? If so, why would he be lying?

I think the question is one of self-interest. Is there a question or a self-interest by Dr. Fauci

to not have any evidence point towards the lab, to not point towards him funding dangerous research

in the lab? Of course, I think he's conflicted. Yes, I think that he's obfuscating, lying, distorting,

doing whatever he can to deflect blame. Senator Paul, it's back here. I just wanted to know,

what proof do we have right now? When people say about the funding of gain of research,

there was a $600,000 grant that went through an intermediary from the NIH and then that intermediary

gave that grant to, just for everyone listening, what are the hard and fast facts right now

if somebody wants to make the claim that there was at least some degree of funding for gain of

function research? Without question, the NIH funded the research. When you look at the papers by Dr.

Chi from the Wuhan Institute, the woman they call the bat scientist, when she publishes her papers,

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