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Today's show is something that is obviously very near and dear to my heart.

It's a component of the last 20 plus years in the GWAT, and that's helping our brothers heal from what they've gone through.

And so I really wanted to reach out and bring on not only one of my favorite shit talkers on X,

but also one of the most dedicated guys that's leading the charge to really make a difference with with soft members and

their health and improving and that's clay martin so clay welcome to the show man i'm so grateful

that you came on david brother thanks for having me man i i i can't thank you enough for having

on here man this is a awareness of this issue what we're going to do about it now that we actually

have a solution. The most important thing in my life.

All right. Let's just back up a little bit. Obviously, you know, when you left service, you know,

how long did it take before you realize that what you were dealing with was not just, you know, old age.

Dude, a long, long time, actually.

I was, I was medically retired, too, which brings about its own issues, is that, you know,

there's all this mental stuff, like, you weren't ready to go, and now you're kicked out the

door and all this bullshit.

But, man, I would say

probably five, six years. One of the problems with us, man, is we don't talk about this

shit. We don't talk about weakness or, you know, I go to the gym and I get no gains or I can't

we don't tell each other that shit. We're trying to tough guy through it. Like we're still on a team for some reason.

And there were a lot of things that I was experiencing that I didn't know.

My team is to go through the exact same thing 200 miles away.

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