Clattenburg: United Mind Games, Liverpool Bust Ups & Forest Job! The Overlap Fan Debate
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4.3 • 569 Ratings
🗓️ 25 March 2025
⏱️ 72 minutes
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Summary
In this episode of the Fan Debate brought to you by Sky Bet, Jamie Carragher and Paul Scholes are joined by former Premier League (and current Gladiators!) referee Mark Clattenburg.
The show kicks off with Mark opening up about his role as Referee Consultant at Nottingham Forest, including the backlash that came with that.
We'll hear about player conflicts - including Craig Bellamy and Adam Lallana - as well as his heated relationship with with Jurgen Klopp, plus Jose Mourinho’s charm.
Mark then delves into his controversial refereeing decisions, the impact of VAR and the difficulty of dealing with social media backlash. Plus, we get the reason behind Clattenburg’s tattoos, the highs and lows of his career and officiating major finals.
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00:00 – Intro
01:52 – Mark Clattenburg at Nottingham Forest
07:13 – Referees Declaring Their Football Team
15:06 – Mark Clattenburg’s Role as Referee Consultant at Nottingham Forest
19:00 – Mark Clattenburg’s Journey to Refereeing
22:18 – Mark Clattenburg’s Clash with Craig Bellamy + Adam Lallana
27:17 – The Impact of Social Media on Referees
31:50 – Manchester United’s Mind Games and Jose Mourinho’s Charm
33:11 – Clattenburg’s Clash with Jurgen Klopp
37:08 – Refereeing Bayern Munich v Barcelona in the Champions League
39:51 – Refereeing Mistakes in the Merseyside Derby
43:26 – Champions League Final: Real Madrid v Atletico Madrid
46:53 – Clattenburg’s Tattoos
49:50 – Clattenburg’s Thoughts on VAR
53:06 – Do Referees Have an Agenda Against Certain Clubs?
55:48 – The Best Referee in the Premier League Right Now + Chat on Added Time
01:06:10 – What Rule in Football Would Mark Clattenburg Change?
01:09:07 – Flav Takes on a Tottenham Hotspur Quiz
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| 0:00.0 | Some players just didn't like me and I didn't like them. |
| 0:02.5 | Name names. |
| 0:03.2 | Craig Badlamy. |
| 0:04.2 | It fell out the role was just about telling Maranakis when the referee was wrong. |
| 0:09.0 | I remember I had a fight with Adam Lalana. |
| 0:11.0 | As you do. |
| 0:12.8 | I think I said to Rio once. |
| 0:14.3 | I said, go and tell you a fucking manager to fuck. |
| 0:18.1 | And he nobody turned around and he said, I'm not telling him. |
| 0:39.7 | Mark Clattenberg, Arsenal fans are the problem. No. Well, Stuart Atwell, in that match, my professional opinion, he made two mistakes. So I got a phone call from Mike Riley, my boss, he said, did you say it? I said, yeah, I did. I said, but tell him next time I'll send him off. Is it true that you have a tattoo of all of the finals that you've done, including the Olympics? I've got the sideman, no, I don't know. |
| 0:46.6 | I'm not. I'm not as well. |
| 0:47.9 | Why are you sitting behind us? |
| 0:54.0 | Welcome to a new episode of the fan debate |
| 0:56.2 | brought to you by Skybet |
| 0:58.3 | and this week we are joined by our special guest Mark Clattenberg |
| 1:01.8 | who we all know best from refereeing |
| 1:04.5 | in the Premier League now involved in Nottingham Forest |
| 1:07.7 | and doing a little stint on gladiated as well Mark |
| 1:10.0 | so fill us in what's happening at the moment? What are you up to? |
| 1:14.9 | Gladiators is what, every Saturday night at the moment. |
| 1:17.3 | So we film that in the summer, of course. Just bits of bobs, bits of TV work. |
| 1:22.6 | Working Farmers and Prime on Champions League nights and watching my favourite team Newcastle United win yesterday. |
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