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Classic: Transhumanism, AI & the Soul: Are We Losing Our Humanity? Lord Martin Rees and Dr. John Wyatt

Unbelievable?

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Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.62.3K Ratings

🗓️ 29 July 2025

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

Dipping into the archives, a classic episode of Unbelievable? from The Big Conversation series features Justin Brierley joined by Astronomer Royal Lord Martin Rees and Christian bioethicist Dr John Wyatt to explore the future of humanity in the age of AI, robotics, and transhumanism. From robot carers and sex bots to life beyond Earth, the discussion tackles profound ethical and philosophical questions. Can machines ever become conscious? What does it mean to be human in a digital age? Will we lose something essential if robots replace human connection? Drawing from their books — (Rees) and (Wyatt) — the guests debate whether technological advancement enhances or endangers human dignity, meaning, and morality. Along the way, we also hear from real-life robot ‘Nao’ and insights from robotics experts Nigel Crook and David Levy. A must-listen for anyone curious about where science, ethics, and faith intersect in our rapidly changing world. • Support us: https://www.premierunbelievable.com/geolink/donate • Subscribe to the Unbelievable? podcast: https://www.premier.plus/unbelievable • More shows, free eBook & newsletter: https://premierunbelievable.com

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This century is the first when one species, named the human species, can determine the

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entire planet's fate.

0:47.3

How do we understand our humanity in the face of ever-increasing technology?

0:53.6

And what kind of society do we want to build for the future?

0:57.0

If people want to enjoy sex with a robot, what's the harm in it?

1:01.0

I don't think we should ever do it.

1:03.0

How are you doing today?

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I am doing well. Thank you for asking.

1:08.0

We are going to have a very bumpy ride in my view.

1:13.7

Hello there, welcome to the Big Conversation Season 4 from Premier Unbelievable, brought to you in

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partnership with John Templeton Foundation as we look today at robotics, transhumanism, and

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