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Welcome along to another classic replay from the Archives of Unbelievably.

I'm Peter Byrum and this week we're going back to an episode from early 2015.

In 1960, physicist Eugene Vignor wrote a paper on the unreasonable effectiveness of mathematics.

Christian philosopher William Lane Craig, otherwise known as Bill Craig to his friends and this show,

was developing arguments concerning the applicability of mathematics as evidence for God as part of his wider research on abstract objects.

So Bill interacted with atheist agnostic philosopher Daniel Cain on whether the remarkable ability of maths to describe the universe we live in

is evidence for a transcendent designer.

And before we jump in, just a reminder that this week is your chance to watch the new episode,

episode 3 of season 5 of the Big Conversation, a whole week early.

It's going to be released on July the 7th, but if you register at thebigconversation.show,

we will send you an email with a special link to watch the episode from June 30th instead.

The episode will feature Christian author Nick Spencer and atheist science writer and broadcaster Philip Ball,

debating the question of whether science and religion can tell us what it means to be human.

It's a fascinating episode, so if you want to watch that a week early starting from this week,

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