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Classic Replay: The outsider test of faith - John Loftus & Randal Rauser

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Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

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🗓️ 7 February 2023

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

Another classic show from the archives. Randal Rauser is a Christian, John Loftus is a former-Christian-now-atheist. They co-authored the book “God Or Godless? debating 20 controversial questions.” They joined me for two discussions. In his “Outsider Test for Faith” Loftus claimed that Christians would abandon their faith if they critiqued it in the way they do other religions. But Rauser argued that Loftus needed to put his own atheistic worldview through the test. They also debated whether stories of miracles can count as evidence of the supernatural. First broadcast 2013. • Subscribe to the Unbelievable? podcast: https://pod.link/267142101 • More shows, free eBook & newsletter: https://premierunbelievable.com • For live events: http://www.unbelievable.live • For online learning: https://www.premierunbelievable.com/training-and-events • Support us in the USA: http://www.premierinsight.org/unbelievableshow • Support us in the rest of the world: https://www.premierunbelievable.com/donate

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0:00.0

You're listening to Unbelievable with Justin Browley.

0:18.4

Hello, it's your midweek edition of Unbelievable Calling with another classic replay from the

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archive so many great shows that we bring to you as a midweek edition of the show from

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the archive. Randall Rouse, of course, has been a regular guest on Unbelievable over the

0:32.8

years as a Christian apologist and Theologian. John Loftus is a well-known former Christian

0:37.7

now atheist and they co-authored some ten years ago the book, God or Godless, Debating

0:43.5

Twenty Controversial Questions. Well, they joined me for two discussions in his outside

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of test for faith. Loftus claimed that Christians would abandon their faith if they critiqued

0:53.9

it in the way that they do other religions. But Rouse argued that Loftus needed to put his

0:58.1

own atheistic worldview through that same test. They also debated whether stories of miracles

1:03.4

can count as evidence of the supernatural. So that's our classic replay for today from

1:08.0

2013. Just a reminder as well, it's not too late. If you're listening to the show today

1:12.9

on the latest podcast drops the 7th of February to register for our discussion on LGBT and

1:18.7

the Church, Sexuality Gender and Identity Andrew Bundt and Charlie Bell, two different

1:24.0

perspectives from two same sex attractive Christians will be joining me. You can register

1:28.2

for that to be part of the live audience, unbelievable.live. But for now, let's get into

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today's classic replay.

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So it's great to welcome onto the show today, my two guests, Randall Rousey and John Loftus

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and we're going to be finding out a little bit more about them now and the books that

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they've both been writing recently. First of all, a warm welcome to you Randall back

1:52.5

again after you joined us earlier in the year to talk about your last book, The Swedish

1:57.1

80s, The Scooby-Diver and other apologetic rabbit trails. You've been doing some debates

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