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podcasts in the world and today i'm bringing you the oddest couple that you've ever seen on this podcast,

but yet they're actually completely intertwined and will establish why that is the case.

But we have today legendary producer, important architect of the Detroit sound

that has been blossoming over the last, I don't know, 10, 15 years.

And in addition to that, his newest protege, Claire, who I don't want to try to pronounce

the last name.

How do I say it?

Chavon.

Shavon.

It's very misleading because of the way it's spelled.

Yeah, you can say that.

It's Irish.

And you know what else I discovered while I was looking into your catalog is that there's a

very, very well-known YouTuber who's married to a Pokemon Go YouTuber that I used to watch when

the game first came out with the exact same name as you. Well, I have a feeling, and I don't know

this for a fact, but I have a feeling we're both named after where our families are from,

and we could potentially have a connection because I'm named after county clear in Ireland,

where my family still has a dairy farm, and she could potentially be from the same area. I don't

know, but that's just a, it's possible. That would be insane.

Yeah.

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