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Welcome back to Gabby with Gibb. I'm your host Gibson-Johns, and today on the show, we have a conversation with Carlos King. I know for a fact that a good amount of my listeners have arrived here after hearing me on his podcast, Reality with the King. But in case you aren't aware, Carlos is a longtime reality TV producer who worked on early seasons of Jersey as well as Atlanta. So he's obviously a total pro who both knows what he's talking about and also just like

isn't afraid to inject a little humor and say something that might be a little unpopular or

controversial, which I always appreciate about him. And I think we have great chats because we

kind of balance each other out. Anyway, I wanted to have Carlos on the podcast again and just see where the conversation took us, honestly. I didn't have much of a layout or agenda for us, but he had just gone to Kathy Hilton's Christmas party. So we sort of just started there. And I won't recap everything we talked about up here because I've gotten a couple reviews telling me that it's boring when I do that. But there was one particular thing that I did want to ask him about and just give you some context about. So basically, on a recent episode of his podcast, he had said that someone told him that Doreet and P.K. were making up their separation for the show. And that clip was shared a bunch on social media last week right before we recorded for obvious reasons.

And the part that didn't make the cut was him saying at the end, he didn't believe this source

saying that they were making up their separation.

So I wanted to know just sort of like all of his thoughts on that whole situation, like now that

it was out there and now that people had responded to it, I wanted to know whether he's heard from

anybody about it since putting that out there. So just some context for you on that topic,

sort of in a way through the conversation. Anyway, not much else to discuss up top here today. There's

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