We don't just speak to directors, composers and producers on this show.

Actors are welcome to.

And in Killian Murphy, we not only have a man at the top of his game,

but also a genuine enthusiast for the Sonic Arts.

I'm Edith Bowman and you're listening to Soundtracking, the podcasts in which the leading lights of film and television discuss the music in their work.

Killian has shone in a hugely diverse range of films from Blockbusters Dunkirk and the Dark Night trilogy to indie flicks like Disco Pigs and Breakfast on Pluto. He can currently be seen in BBC Gangs to Epic Peaky Blinders back for a fourth season having garnered an enormous fan base and widespread critical acclaim.

Now, if you haven't seen Peakey, one has to wonder what you've been doing with your time.

In a nutshell, Killian stars as Tommy, the leader of the eponymous gang who are fighting for

underworld supremacy in post-World War I Birmingham.

Among the show's many delights is the use of contemporary

music as a counterpoise to the narrative, from Nick Cave and Warren Ellis, whose track Martha's

Dream is playing now, to P.J. Harvey, Savagies and the White Stripes. You'll hear examples of all

of these artists throughout the conversation,

starting with Mr Cave and his red right hand, a track that has become synonymous with the show.

Killeen Murphy, welcome to soundtracking. This is a real pleasure. Thank you. Because there's loads of places to start, but let's start with Piki.

Congratulations on the success of that so far, but this particular series as well is just...

Talk about kind of getting out the traps for the first episode, amazing.

Yeah, well, I'm just really happy that, you know, in series four, we're still managing to push it, you know, and to stretch ourselves.

And it isn't the normal pattern, I think, for television shows to still be improving by series four.

This tend to dip or your plateau or whatever.

But it's the quality of the writing and the sort of focus and energy everyone has is that every year determination is to make it better.

Yeah. And from the off, from that first episode and that theme tune music, it's such a big part of that show.

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