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How you doing Sean? Yeah doing great man. How about yourself? Why thanks long time no see

Yeah, thank you for rejoining us sure sure

Previously we talked about Manson the CIA mk ultra absolutely fascinating

We we have a much shorter window of time this evening

So I'll get straight into it

But for people watching this then who are not familiar with your work time. Do you just want to say a little bit about your please?

Yeah, yeah, I published a book about a year and a half ago called

Chaos Charles Manson the CIA and the secret history of the 60s and it was a book that began as a magazine article in

99 when I was asked to commemorate in a story that what was then going to be the

30th anniversary of the Manson murders and a very long story short the article started growing beyond its

Perimeters and became a book but the book took me 20 years to finally complete

Because I went beyond the Manson murders when I found out that most of what we've been told about that case was a lie

And when I found out what it was covering up and what it was falsely

Presenting led to a lot of other stories including the CIA's involvement a lot of domestic

Activities in the 60s. Well actually going back to the 50s through the 60s and I stopped in the early 70s

I didn't really want to look beyond that because I was already having too much stuff for one book

So is this book getting option then into a series?

It actually was option based on the book proposal in 2017

The second book proposal I had a deal prior to that with another publisher and they got impatient

cancel the deal and sued me for the return of the events which was a pain in the butt but um

When we did the second book proposal

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