Hey, welcome to Deconversion Therapy.

This is Karen.

This is Bonnie.

We're having fun internet problems.

Yeah, because we're in primetime usage.

Yeah, we used to do it on Sundays.

We now do it on Thursdays.

I was thinking today that also means a lot can happen between recording and when it goes out.

So if we're out of date, just skip to the next one that's not there. I don't know. Or we'll do an emergency podcast if something awful happens to,

I don't know, the hostel. One of us.

The hostel down in Miami Beach.

And I say Deconversion Therapy, the podcast because a lot of you know us from our Facebook group, which might not even have anything to do with the podcast, except it originated

a lot of people talking to each other and sharing stories about their whole

process and their family stories and what it's like when they go home for Thanksgiving.

Well, not this year, but last year.

They tell what it was like to stay home for Thanksgiving.

Right.

And be talked to about Jesus a lot and Christmas.

So there was someone who is new to the group and this person came in with a serious

story and then later was like oh no I didn't know I

shouldn't you know I should make light I should do lighter things and we're like

no no say whatever you need to say and then she later wrote well if I can also

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