Welcome back to the Podforce One podcast. I'm Miranda Devine and today I'm at the Senate Judiciary Committee

with Chairman Chuck Grassley of Iowa, the longest serving Republican senator in history.

Senator Chuck Grassley, thank you so much for joining us on Podforce One.

Well, of course, thank you for having me. We're in this beautiful room,

wood-paneled room. Very famous, memorable moments have happened in this Judiciary Committee hearing

room. Are there any favorite moments that stand out for you? Yeah, when Kavanaugh was up and I was opening a meeting, giving my opening statement, I got two words

out of my mouth, and one Democrat after the other just suggested we adjourn.

I said this, you don't adjourn hearings, you only adjourn exactly committee meetings.

But that went on for a couple hours. And I just let them harangue about it. I think I made my

Republicans mad because I didn't cut them off, but I've come to the conclusion

after a lot of years in the United States Senate that it's easier to let people talk. It takes

longer to shut them up. So I just let them talk. But it took, instead of getting done at two

o'clock in the afternoon, we got down about 5 o'clock in the afternoon.

I think we started at 9 or 10 o'clock in the morning, but they ate up a good two or three hours

trying to shut the whole Kavanaugh hearing down.

Yeah, that was Justice now, Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh,

and that was a really ugly meeting, wasn't it?

Ugly hearing when they brought in all sorts of lies and tried to besmirch his character.

So it must have been difficult to keep control of that hearing.

Yeah.

You know, even after we had the hearing, I think the Democrats thought they could stop him by his not being able to

answer the questions. And so once he was able to show that he could answer their questions,

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