meta_pixel
Tapesearch Logo
Log in
Science Vs

Chronic Pain: Can Our Brains Fix It?

Science Vs

Spotify Studios

Education, Science, Health & Fitness

4.412.4K Ratings

🗓️ 28 October 2021

⏱️ 30 minutes

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

People with chronic pain often struggle with it for years while doctors scour their bodies for the cause. But are we looking in the wrong spot? For some of us, could an answer — and the solution — actually be in our brains? To find out, we talked with Professor Lorimer Moseley, Dr. Javeria Hashmi, and psychologist Alan Gordon. Here’s a link to our transcript: https://bit.ly/3jHBvYb To learn more about Alan’s therapy, check out his new book, “The Way Out.” This episode was produced by Nick DelRose with help from Rose Rimler, Meryl Horn, Michelle Dang, and Ekedi Fausther-Keeys. We’re edited by Blythe Terrell. Our executive producer is Wendy Zukerman. Fact checking by Erica Akiko Howard. Mix and sound design by Bumi Hidaka. Music written by Bumi Hidaka, Peter Leonard, Emma Munger and Bobby Lord. Thanks to the researchers we got in touch with for this episode, including Professor Akiko Okifuji, Dr. Emma Guymer, Kajal Patel, María Villarreal Santiago, Dr. Massieh Moayedi, Dr. Peggy Compton, Dr. Ramakrishnan Mani, Sheren Gaulbert, and Dr. Yoni Ashar. And special thanks to Joe Cohen, Nolan Gardner, Sarah Nguyen, Liwen Hu and Will Everett. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0

Hi, I'm Rose Remler, stepping in for Wendy Zookerman, and this is Science vs. from Gimlet.

0:07.5

This is the show that pits facts against feeling pain for years.

0:11.4

Today we're talking about chronic pain.

0:18.2

And this is something that a lot of people deal with, including someone on our team.

0:22.4

My name's Nick Delrose.

0:23.8

I work at Science vs. I'm a associate producer.

0:27.6

How long have you been here now?

0:28.9

Almost a year.

0:29.9

It just occurred to me recently that we have never met.

0:32.2

Right.

0:33.2

I mean, the height mystery is just you are all the same height in my mind.

0:38.6

And maybe because I had never met Nick, I hadn't realized that he'd been grappling with

0:42.6

pain this whole time.

0:44.8

He told me it's actually been going on for years, starting when he was in his PhD program.

0:50.8

He was in New York, studying plants, specifically, studying how plants grow their roots back

0:55.7

after they've been injured.

0:57.2

I mean, I love plants.

0:59.2

So it was just so exciting to plant seeds and watch them grow.

1:03.6

And he says that first, he really loved his research.

1:07.4

But over time, things started to get really hard.

1:10.8

Three years in, I was really feeling the stress and just like hunched over my lab bench all

1:18.4

the time.

...

Please login to see the full transcript.

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Spotify Studios, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of Spotify Studios and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.

Copyright © Tapesearch 2026.