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The Treatment

Christopher Nolan on ‘Oppenheimer,’ Mr. Cartoon on ‘Just My Imagination,’ Brooklyn Sudano on The Treat

The Treatment

KCRW

Arts

4.6639 Ratings

🗓️ 15 July 2023

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

This week on The Treatment, Elvis welcomes back writer-director Christopher Nolan, whose latest project is the film Oppenheimer, about J. Robert Oppenheimer, “the father of the atomic bomb.” Next, artist Mr. Cartoon joins to discuss his show Just My Imagination currently running at BEYOND THE STREETS & CONTROL Gallery in Los Angeles. And on The Treat, filmmaker Brooklyn Sudano talks about a place that grounds her.

Transcript

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0:00.0

From KCRW Santa Monica and KCRW.com, it's The Treatment.

0:14.3

It's The Treatment.

0:15.5

I'm Elvis Mitchell.

0:17.0

Imagine the story of a man who's looking to solve a mystery and basically opens a Pandora's box of information he never thought he'd want.

0:26.1

It could be the story of following or P memento or tenant, or perhaps also it is the story of Oppenheimer, the new film by writer-director Chris Nolan, who hasn't been

0:38.7

here in a few movies. So it's thrilling to have him back. It's nice to be back, thank you.

0:44.0

But let's talk about that theme that runs through your work, this idea of looking to find

0:51.0

a piece of information and getting much more than you bargained for.

0:55.5

It's both in narrative and emotional terms of a really big bite of the apple.

0:59.8

I think you could characterize it as the danger of knowledge.

1:03.5

And it's there in a lot of my films.

1:05.6

I mean, even through to, I was talking to somebody the other day about the end of the Dark

1:09.7

Night and Alfred

1:11.3

burning the letter from Rachel, so holding that knowledge back from Bruce Wayne.

1:16.8

And, you know, I think it comes back to my interest in film noir and thrillers, the danger

1:22.6

of knowledge and the idea of withholding knowledge for good reasons, as opposed to for bad reasons,

1:29.3

the idea that intentions and consequences, you know, form a really important part of how we look at these characters and these stories,

1:39.1

how we decide who the villains are, who the heroes are.

1:42.2

And I've always been drawn to stories where that's confused.

1:45.8

And there are layers to that, and that's ambiguous.

1:49.0

And when I looked at Oppenheimer's story,

1:52.0

it was the most clearly delineated, dramatic example

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