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Nomad Podcast

Christopher Collingwood - Zen Wisdom for Christians (N198)

Nomad Podcast

Tim Nash

Christianity, Faithshift, Deconstruction, Christianmysticism, Religion & Spirituality, Christianspirituality, Progressivechristian, Christian, Religion, Emergingchurch

4.7 • 658 Ratings

🗓️ 10 June 2019

⏱️ 115 minutes

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Summary

Christopher Collingwood is an Anglican priest - Canon Chancellor of York Minster, no less. And… he’s a Zen Buddhist teacher. So clearly he knows a thing or two about navigating an evolving faith, and the pushback that can come with it.

After the interview, Nomad hosts Tim Nash and Nick Thorley ponder how, if at all, Zen can help them on their our journey of faith deconstruction and reconstruction.

Interview begins at 16m 30s

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Transcript

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0:00.0

The

0:07.0

The Welcome back to Nomad podcast.

0:40.0

Nick's back.

0:41.0

Hi Tim, perfect intonation.

0:43.3

I like that intonation.

0:44.7

It's very familiar rhythm to the opening.

0:47.4

It's always a pleasure to welcome you back to the garden office.

0:49.4

It's quite warm in here today, isn't it?

0:50.4

It's nice and warm.

0:51.1

I've been freezing for about a week, so I'm liking it.

0:53.6

We've got a very interesting interview for you this time, beloved listener, an Anglican priest

0:57.9

who's also a Zen Buddhist teacher. How can you not find that interesting? That's interesting,

1:03.9

isn't it? It's really interesting. Zen is in the common vernacular as well, isn't it?

1:08.1

It is, yeah. Like, oh, I'm just going to go all Zen. Yeah. So for those of us who are

1:12.4

wrestling with what might feel like, I don't know, a rather narrow faith that we've inherited in this

1:17.2

episode, we're going to be exploring how another religion might help us on that journey. Controversial?

1:22.3

I don't know. Nick, how would you have felt 10 years ago when Nomad started if I had suggested that we spoke with a Christian

1:29.6

who was also a Zen teacher? I'd say no, Tim, don't do that. Why would we want to do that?

1:35.2

Because I can remember, I can remember right back in the early days when Steve Chalk came out

1:40.1

with that book, what was it, the lost message of Jesus? And he was kind of critique in penal

1:43.6

substitution, wasn't he? I think he famously likened it to cosmic child abuse. That sort of

1:48.4

understanding of the cross. And you said, oh, we should interview Steve Chalk. And I was like,

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