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So you travel more than anybody I know.

You spend more days out of the country and have for more years than literally anyone I know.

So answer this question. The countries that

seem to be moving backward the most quickly, this is my perception, are the white Christian

English-speaking countries, New Zealand, Australia, Canada, UK, United States. Am I imagining that?

What is that? Well, I know. I don't, I can't really speak about the countries of what they used to call the old Commonwealth, the, you know, Australia, New Zealand.

I've never, I've never been to those places.

But I certainly think that England, the UK more generally, but England in particular, is really in a difficult position now.

And I think that the diagnosis that English people generally are coming to is that they've had, that they've been overwhelmed by immigration, but you may have a better handle than numbers.

How much immigration has the UK had, ish?

Well, I think that they're up around uh you know the the the the country is

the country well most recent countries had a lot of immigration since um you know since the

second world war um it had some moments of acceleration it um they had a huge wave of migrants

from both the Caribbean and the

Indian subcontinent in the years right after the war, and by a huge wave, you know, one,

you know, it's a couple hundred thousand. But more recently we've had even larger numbers.

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