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The Interview

Christo Grozev: Investigating Russia

The Interview

BBC

News, Politics, Government

4.3537 Ratings

🗓️ 16 April 2023

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

Stephen Sackur speaks to Christo Grozev, Bellingcat's lead Russia investigator. His work has exposed crimes and embarrassed the Kremlin. What motivates this digital detective?

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to Hard Talk on the BBC World Service with me, Stephen Sacker. My guest today was recently

0:05.8

described as just a Bulgarian nerd with a laptop. Now, the nerd in question is Christo Grozzev, lead

0:13.2

Russia investigator of Bellingat, which has made headlines in recent years for its deep dive

0:19.0

digital investigations largely based on open source material

0:23.3

which have exposed the truth behind a host of military and intelligence operations around the world

0:28.7

primarily focusing on Russia. The description of Grozef as a Bulgarian nerd came from the now jailed

0:36.5

Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny. He worked with

0:39.8

Grozef on an extraordinary investigation which uncovered the Russian agents responsible for poisoning

0:45.9

Navalny with Novichok nerve agent. The film of that expose recently won an Oscar and made

0:52.0

Grozef more of a public figure. And that isn't necessarily a good

0:56.0

thing for the Bulgarian journalist and radio station owner as a result of his work on Russian

1:01.1

operations, not just the Navalny poisoning, but the background to the downing of the MH17 passenger

1:06.8

jet over Ukraine in 2014, the poisoning of former KGB agent Sergei Scripal in England,

1:13.0

and now the Russian military assault on Ukraine, he has been declared a wanted man in Moscow.

1:19.7

He recently quit his home in Vienna for safety reasons and is now in the United States.

1:24.7

That move will doubtless fuel persistent allegations from his critics that his

1:29.0

forensic open-source journalism neatly serves the interests of Western powers and that Bellingat has

1:36.0

enjoyed funding either directly or indirectly from Western governments. In a world awash with

1:41.4

information and disinformation, does Christo Grozzev's digital detective work

1:46.8

come with an ideological agenda.

1:49.4

Well, he joins me now from Washington.

1:52.2

Welcome to Hard Talk.

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