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Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps

Christmas! Food! Farts! E. Coli! with food scientist Gary Kennedy

Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps

Josh Szeps

Society & Culture, Comedy Interviews, Self-improvement, Comedy, Education

4.5905 Ratings

🗓️ 22 December 2025

⏱️ 87 minutes

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Summary

For how many hours can you leave out a Christmas ham? Will turkey stuffing give you the runs? Is it okay to refrigerate hot take-away fried rice? Why does America have the world's worst E. coli? Can soft cheese really kill unborn babies? Why does asparagus make your pee smell? Every Christmas, families sit down to feasts... and Josh sits down with one of his favourite regular guests, Gary Kennedy. Gary is a food scientist who knows everything about the microbiology of what you eat, and what you shouldn't. Merry Christmas, humans. Bon appetit!

Transcript

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0:00.0

Gatay humans. Welcome to the safe space for dangerous ideas and Merry Christmas.

0:09.6

Happy New Year, happy holidays.

0:12.0

It is a time of year when we stuff our faces with food and sometimes that can have undesirable

0:18.7

consequences. In particular, some uncomfortable conversations around, I don't know, gas, funny smelling

0:25.2

urine, tiredness after big meals, whether or not we're going to make everybody sick.

0:28.7

By the way, we're cooking things at the barbecue if you're in Australia or indoors

0:33.3

if you're in the Northern Hemisphere.

0:34.6

So at this time of year, one of my favorite guests from my old ABC radio show always comes and joins us to enlighten us, amuse us, entertain us, inform us about all things related to food, food preparation, cuisine, health, microbiology. I don't know if it sounds fascinating selling it that way, but Gary Kennedy

0:57.0

is an absolute riot. He is one of the most prominent and well-informed and senior food safety

1:04.5

advisors in Australia. He gets hired by the big supermarket chains, by governments in Australia and all

1:09.8

around the Asia Pacific,

1:15.1

to tell them how do they have to do things, how they have to set things up, how hot do things have to be, how cold do things have to be, you know, in the food preparation industry, what are

1:20.4

the regulations that governments should impose?

1:22.7

So he's always flying around Asia, visiting new food production plants and agricultural factories and stuff like that.

1:28.8

And he's a food scientist, so he understands the microbiology of it, what exactly the bacteria

1:33.4

are that can make you sick, how they make you sick, how they change your intestinal, everything,

1:39.0

everything.

1:39.7

You may not want to listen to this while you're literally eating food, because we do go into some uncomfortable scatological places.

1:48.7

But I thought this would be a nice reprieve from the seriousness of recent weeks.

1:53.0

So I hope you enjoy as much as I did, the one, the only, Gary Kennedy.

2:07.0

Australia is quite different to the rest of the world.

2:12.7

Most of the world, you can't just randomly add vitamins and minerals amino acid to food.

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