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🗓️ 3 August 2014
⏱️ 131 minutes
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As part of Tikvah's Summer Fellowship, participants were treated to a discussion on how to read and how to think about rabbinic literature. The two interlocutors approach rabbinic literature from different points of view and from different intellectual traditions. Christine Hayes of Yale University is one of the very few and perhaps the most accomplished academic expert in Talmudic literature who was neither born nor raised as a Jew and who, as you will see below, consciously decided not to convert to Judaism. Professor Hayes's fellow discussant was Rabbi Yehoshua Pfeffer, a haredi rabbinic judge and a former clerk on the Israeli Supreme Court. Each of these great teachers begins by talking about their "love affair" with rabbinic literature and shedding light on the core questions of reading rabbinic texts: What can we learn from the Talmud about how to live? About the truth of the universe? What kind of questions are therefore worth asking of the Talmud? After the autobiographical statements, each gave a shiur on a topic of their choice and responded to the other's. In so doing, they demonstrated the differences and similarities between the spirit of the academy and the spirit of the yeshiva.
Recording took place on August 3, 2014.
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0:00.0 | As many of you know, there's a famous anecdote told |
0:03.3 | about a meeting between a prominent Russian Jew |
0:06.3 | and the German historian of Judaism, Leopold Zunz, |
0:10.4 | who in 1819 founded the Society for the Culture |
0:14.0 | and Science of the Jews, out of which grew the movement |
0:17.5 | known as Wysenshaft de Judentham, the science of Judaism. |
0:22.6 | The Wissenshaft movement produced the scholarship out of which grew the modern study of Judaism as we know it, |
0:28.6 | what we see thriving at Jewish studies departments in our universities. |
0:32.6 | It's also entered the popular, there we go, it's also entered the popular imagination, or I suppose my imagination at least, for being an objective method of looking at Jewish texts |
0:43.7 | and history, a neutral, perhaps even clinical approach that values detachment of the scholar |
0:49.8 | from the subject matter that he or she investigates. |
0:53.5 | Now, that may or may not be fair to the movement, but the story of Zunz and the Russian |
0:58.3 | Jewish man of letters demonstrates this sort of view quite well. |
1:05.3 | It's probably an apocryphal story, people tell me, but nonetheless. |
1:08.9 | Okay, so the story goes, Zunz, the German scholar, |
1:12.6 | asks the Russian guest to Berlin what he does, |
1:15.3 | and he receives the answer, |
1:16.5 | I'm a Hebrew poet, |
1:18.0 | to which Zunz responds dryly, |
1:21.0 | When did you live? |
1:25.7 | Now, Thickf's approach to the study of Judaism might well be called contra-visanchaftian, |
1:33.3 | if that's not too barbaric for you. |
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