Welcome to Glamorous Trash.

This is a podcast that bookclubs viral articles, celebrity memoirs, and trashy discourse to elevate

your life.

I'm your host, Chelsea Devontes.

I'm a TV writer, comedian, filmmaker, author, and sometimes I'm in sub-2.

And today, we're book clubbing sisterife, a memoir of faith, family, and

Finding Freedom by Christine Brown Woolley. This book is called Sister Wife, because you know

Christine from the TLC show, Sister Wives, 19 seasons, four wives, 18 children, and one sad man named Cody Brown as the husband and the

center of it all. Now, I did not watch sister wives. I've only seen clips. And I was riveted by this

memoir. It felt like I got a recap of all 19 seasons, but only the highlights and with hindsight

and like drama and extra gossip from Christine. Who has left Cody, left the church, left

polygamy. She is writing this as an ex-wife. I found it fascinating. And I know my guest is a fan of

the show, so I cannot wait. Let's just dive right in. Where mine and Cody's marriage started to

disintegrate is actually when I was pregnant with Truly. I was overwhelmed with everything. I still had to

like produce some sort of income. So I was working at night and Aspen in fifth grade was tucking

the kids in bed at night, 10 years old running the house after I'd leave for work. And I asked Cody, I said, I need your help. And he goes, I can't do that. I'm in other houses. I'm like, we live in one house. You just can't come over and tuck my kids in bed and talk to them and put them in bed. And he said, no, I just can't. My guest today is Olivia Minter,

a writer, reader, and the co-host of the Bad on Paper podcast. Her first novel,

Such a Bad Influence, was an instant USA Today bestseller. Her second novel, Little One, is already

on the way. It's going to be published in 2026. Hi, Olivia. Hi, I am so excited to be here. It is a dream to talk about

sister wives this in depth. I have been trying to make you a friend of mine for a long time.

I feel happy. I've finally gotten you here. We've almost met in person so many times at book

events. So I was like, please come on my

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