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The Dave Chang Show

Christina Tosi of Milk Bar, Part 2 | The Dave Chang Show (Ep. 22)

The Dave Chang Show

The Ringer

Society & Culture, Arts, Food

4.88.7K Ratings

🗓️ 21 September 2018

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

Chef and Momofuku founder Dave Chang is joined by Milk Bar founder Christina Tosi to recount her experience working under Wylie Dufresne (1:36), how she helped advance Momofuku (14:05), and the trials and tribulations of opening the first Milk Bar (38:22). Milk Bar's new Los Angeles flagship store opens this Saturday, September 22, and will be located at 7150 Melrose Ave. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Dave Chang Show, part of the William Podcast Network. Today you are going

0:16.9

to hear part two of my conversation with the great chef, Christina Toesey, someone I am

0:23.2

incredibly close to and have been through a lot with. Today's conversation covers a little

0:29.2

bit more about our inner workings, our relationship and where she has decided to take things. Again,

0:37.2

apologies if you are hearing things that seem to be too, as I say, inside baseball. There's

0:42.7

too esoteric because we have a rapport that is sort of hard to fake. It is like talking to one

0:49.6

of my siblings. But she is someone that I have great admiration for and is constantly still

0:57.6

pushing me to be better and likewise to her. She is opening up a new milk bar flagship on 7150

1:04.9

mL rows near pinks in the Fairfax area. Highly recommend you guys to check it out. They obviously

1:10.6

have locations everywhere. I feel like a brother or some kind of parent in some way because I'm so

1:15.8

proud of her and what she's done. And now I understand. It's like I want to promote her,

1:20.0

like I've never promoted anyone before because there's very few people that work as hard as her and

1:25.0

deserve it. So I will shut up now and let you hear the second part of my podcast with Christina

1:30.3

Toast. The other important moment and I feel like it's important duty for me to continue talking

1:43.3

about it is WD50 and when you were there. You've spoken about it before and other pods on

1:47.9

Kalpeman's pod and it's there. But what does the world not know about WD50 and why it was so

1:56.1

fucking different and ahead of its time? I mean WD50 set the future of New York City and arguably

2:06.2

food evolution worldwide. I think that the biggest misconception is that Wiley is a mad scientist

2:14.8

and it's a bunch of molecular gastronomy and chemicals and food. I think working there as a cook,

2:21.0

my greatest example would be that a cook that was considering what restaurant they would go to work

2:25.4

at next would be like, I don't want to work at WD50. I want to like learn how to like see a stake

2:30.5

and work the meat station. I don't want to just put a bunch of food in plastic bags. I think that is

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