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Pulling, Holy Scripture talks a lot about being set free, being granted freedom in Jesus Christ.

For freedom Christ has set us free, says the apostle Paul.

But what is that freedom?

And how does it lie at the foundation of all the other freedoms we enjoy? Welcome back to Issues, Et cetera. I'm Todd Wilkin,

joining us to talk about Christian freedom versus worldly license. Dr. Brad Littlejohn, he's a fellow

at the Ethics and Public Policy Center, author of the new book,

called to Freedom of Retrieving Christian Liberty in an Age of License. Dr. Littlejohn, welcome.

Thanks. It's a pleasure to be here. You say that when it comes to freedom, Christians occupy two parallel worlds of discourse. What do you mean by that?

Yeah, so I think as Christians, we often understand at one level. We talk about that true freedom is found in Christ. So we do have this language of piety where we understand freedom

as this kind of internal thing that is ultimately a matter for the soul. And yet, at the same time as Americans,

we instinctively think of freedom in terms of the multiplication of options, in terms of

being able to keep our options open, do what we want with from the meddling of authority.

And this lies behind the way we think about politics. this lies behind our way we think about politics.

This lies behind the way we think about the free market and the economy.

It lies behind a lot of how we think about technology.

And we value technologies that seem to multiply our freedom in this kind of external sense.

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