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The News Agents

Chris Patten on Israel, Iran and Nigel Farage the pub bore

The News Agents

Global

Daily News, News, Government, Politics

4.2 • 4.3K Ratings

🗓️ 20 June 2025

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Chris Patten has done it all. Conservative cabinet minister under Thatcher and Major, our last Governor of British Hong Kong, then back home overseeing policing reform in Northern Ireland, EU Commissioner in Brussels, Chairman of the BBC, Chancellor of Oxford University, you name it, Patten has more chance than anybody of having done it. But his sort of Tory Party is one which increasingly feels consigned to history. What does it mean for Britain’s future if there are no successors to the sort of politics he embodied?

Now in his 80th year, Lewis went to Patten’s salubrious Barnes home, to discuss a remarkable career in national and international politics. He talks the future of China, the Iran conflict, Starmer’s handling of Trump and how Farage is Britain’s biggest pub bore.

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0:00.0

The Newsagents podcast is brought to you by HSBC UK, opening up a world of opportunity.

0:08.1

This is a global player original podcast.

0:11.7

Politicians often want to do it all. They want all the jobs. They want the maximum influence.

0:17.5

But there aren't many who actually achieve it. One who has is Lord Chris Patton.

0:23.7

The Conservative, the man who puts the grand, I think it's fair to say, into Grand D.

0:28.9

The thread of his career runs through British and even international public life over the last

0:34.2

half century. Conservative Cabinet Minister and thecher, a major, our last governor

0:39.0

of British Hong Kong, then back home, overseeing policing reform in Northern Ireland,

0:44.2

EU commissioner, chairman of the BBC, Chancellor of Oxford University. You name it, Patton has more

0:51.5

chance than anybody of having done it. His then is a unique vantage point

0:56.5

to consider the last half century of politics he has lived through and lived, not least because

1:03.3

in so many ways the politics he embodies, a moderate conservatism, has never felt weaker,

1:09.7

has never so sorely lacked a standard bearer.

1:13.1

So Patton has invited us to his home in gentle verdant barns in southwest London to discuss

1:19.1

his political life, a lost political world, and a political future which is home and abroad

1:25.6

has seldom felt so uncertain. Welcome to the newsagents.

1:34.8

The Newsagents. Well, Lord Patton, thank you so much for inviting us into your wonderful home

1:39.6

here in Barnes, surrounded by lots of photographs of your long and illustrious career, which we're

1:44.9

going to talk about. As I say, you've had an extraordinarily long and varied career,

1:48.5

perhaps more so than anyone I can think of in contemporary politics. You grew up in the post-war

1:53.2

1950s. You came of age politically in the 60s. I want to talk a lot about contemporary politics,

1:58.0

but just for a moment, when you look back at the politics of that time now, what do you think remains? Is there anything left of that politics and political

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