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The Chris Cuomo Project

Chris Cuomo and Benny Johnson CLASH Over Trump’s Legacy

The Chris Cuomo Project

Chris Cuomo

News, News Commentary, Politics, Government

4.63.3K Ratings

🗓️ 19 August 2025

⏱️ 92 minutes

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Summary

Benny Johnson (political commentator and host, “The Benny Show”) joins Chris Cuomo for a raw and often combative conversation about politics, media, and the future of the country. From pandemic hindsight to Trump’s political legacy, Cuomo and Johnson clash over freedom, responsibility, and how America should remember its leaders. The discussion also dives into divisiveness in politics, conspiracy theories surrounding Jeffrey Epstein, the role of the media, and whether algorithms and online platforms should enforce ethical standards. Cuomo and Johnson push back against each other, but also find moments of agreement on the need for decency, accountability, and better solutions for families and communities. Follow and subscribe to The Chris Cuomo Project on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube for new episodes every Tuesday and Thursday: https://linktr.ee/cuomoproject Join Chris Ad-Free On Substack: http://thechriscuomoproject.substack.com Support our sponsors: Call American Financing today to find out how customers are saving an avg of $800/mo. 866-889-4244 or visit http://www.AmericanFinancing.net/Cuomo. NMLS 182334, nmlsconsumeraccess.org Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

We need to talk to people who think that everything we say is wrong and that they're always right.

0:06.4

And I have one of the biggest in the pod game to do exactly that.

0:13.8

I am Chris Cuomo.

0:14.6

Welcome to the Chris Cuomo Project.

0:16.4

Who do you have?

0:16.8

Who do you have?

0:17.7

Benny Johnson of the Benny Show.

0:23.9

Mr. Maga. Millions and millions of subscribers, billions of views, incredible reach, controversy, fame, infamy, certainly a player

0:31.7

in Maga land, reviled on the left, right? He's a liar. He's a conspiracist.

0:38.2

He's this.

0:38.6

He's that.

0:39.6

Do I believe those things?

0:41.2

Does it matter?

0:42.7

Do we disagree on everything?

0:44.8

Or is the division the real commodity?

0:48.6

I believe that that's the truth.

0:50.9

No, not that secretly, Benny Johnson and Chris Cuomo or anybody not in MAGA,

0:57.3

agree on everything and he's making it up. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that it doesn't

1:03.3

matter where you disagree. It matters how you disagree. And by doing that, by doing it the right

1:09.8

way, by exercising decency, it's not leniency.

1:12.9

And you're going to see that right now.

1:15.9

Let's get after it.

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