All right, so

Man, it's been I think once the last time I saw you I think it's been a

Satchel right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, man. That was a long time ago. I know back when we could see everybody in person for real

Man, it's nuts how time just

Change from then till now like in it. It really wasn't like it was a long it's been a long time

but in the

Grand scheme of things it's not been that long considering how different things are

Yeah, indeed and yeah, it just seems like yesterday right we were at shot show just hanging out having dinner and seeing all of our colleagues and friends and boy

Now it's a fun hot day every day feels like it's sort of the same. So I'm glad to

We chat with you because at least like okay like this a little bit different

Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely so man, you know, you know you and I

You know, we've had a friendship and we've known each other for some time now a lot of people probably don't know that as much

but

What I wanted to do is kind of have you on to talk about you know recently there have been this kind of spade of

Violence directed towards Asian Americans and Asian people in general here in the country

So what I wanted to do was kind of get a perspective from from that side

in terms of

Some of the dynamics involved as far as the Asian community how from your perspective they're approaching it and then kind of

Go a little bit deeper into the kind of overall ideology behind the Asian community with respect to the second amendment now

I say that with this caveat. I understand that, you know everybody's perspective is gonna be a little different

Even if you know you got two three four five or eight Asian people in a room, right, but I definitely wanted to get your

Perspective since I do know you and then kind of talk about some of those issues. So just want to kind of jump right into it

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