This is a Global Player original podcast.

Welcome to Sweeney Talks.

It's a podcast series where I get to interview people who've done serious stuff with their lives and then got into trouble.

Big trouble.

I'm not here to lecture them about that.

I'm kind of a professor of big troubleology myself.

I've got history with the Church of Scientology, North Korea,

Donald Trump, Vladimir Putin, Tommy Robinson, and the Russian army.

I'm here to find out what it feels like to be in the deep doo-doo.

How you survive it, and then how the hell you get out of it.

If you've been in trouble, you're not alone.

So, come along for the ride.

You might learn some new tricks.

You might have a laugh, but one thing is sure.

The best stories aren't told by the well-behaved.

And once you've listened to the interview, you can hear what I really think about it. In Sweeney keeps talking.

Find that exclusively on Global Player. Today's guest is Chris Atkins. Chris was an outstanding freelance TV producer, working at the very

top of his game, making programs that made good trouble for BBC Panorama and Channel 4.

Then his passion to make a documentary overcame his common sense,

and he fell in with some bad people.

And one day, he was convicted for tax fraud,

sentenced to five years, and ended up in Wandsworth Prison,

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